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republican lawmaker says his party is not even trying to solve the fiscal cliff crisis and why he thinks that may be a good thing. interesting take coming up. >>> plus, russian president vladmir putin, have you heard what he did? taking aim at americans who hope to adopt russian children. what's behind this controversial move? a live report next. jon: right now syria's opposition leader is rejecting an invitation for peace talks as the violence escalates. the country's ally, russia, is inviting the leader of syria's opposition to visit moskow for the first time but that offer turned down. some interesting developments here. let's get them from leland vittert live in our mideast bureau. leland? >> reporter: jon, no one really views russia as an honest broker here especially the rebels who for so long seen russia side with pat assad in this conflict. they don't really want to deal with the russians, hence turning down the invitation. the rebels now think time is on their side. the momentum is on the battlefield has shifted. for so long the rebels were outgunned and outmaneuvered. they hold
for republicans. one of the reasons we are at the fiscal cliff is the republican resolution was under the tacit assumption that they would control the white house, so who cared about everything stacked against them. the main problem was obama ran an absolutely brilliant campaign. republicans had a very weak field, and romney was the best of a very weak field. he himself was a very odd candidate. after the financial crisis, a man essentially of wall street, and a man whose essential issue of the 2010 campaign was obamacare, but he had passed something similar in massachusetts. he had two strikes against him, which made it very difficult begins the difficult rigid discipline obama to win. >> i think obama won because republicans underestimated him, and they did it through sell collision that goes back to 2010 when they considered this to be a referendum on barack obama. it was not a referendum on barack obama. it was a referendum on the economy and the incumbent, but not barack obama the person. republicans left the race feeling like this would be a slam-dunk in 2012. they missed the fact that th
this prickly issue, another stalemate and fiscal cliff negotiation. >> our republican colleagues by refusing to go along with revenues are risking the fiscal cliff. >> i think we're going to fall out of the fiscal tree. there will not be a big deal. >> reporter: confidence in any progress now at a minimum. lawmakers return from their holiday recess on thursday, and when they do, they will have their work cut out for them. reporting live in washington, i'm danielle leigh. veronica, back to you. >>> thank you so much. >>> the pentagon says the commanding officer of s.e.a.l. team 4 has died in afghanistan. 42-year-old joe w. price died saturday of what u.s. military officials are calling a noncombat injury. they tell nbc news his death is being investigated as a possible suicide. s.e.a.l. team 4 was part of a mission to train local afghan police to combat the taliban. >>> in the meantime in what is being called a possible insider attack, a civilian advisor was shot this morning by a woman wearing an afghan police uniform at kabul police headquarters. at least 53 international troops have been k
decide he wins either way. he passed it in the house or he will blame going over the fiscal cliff on the republicans if they resist. completely in the driver's seat and he will l decide what is on the table at december 31 at 11:00 at night. >> let's look at the national debt clock. we surpassed the $16 trillion mark. $16.4 trillion. interest on the debt is huge. thereon what bayh boy said recently. >> servicing the debt hard now. this is interest rates at record lows. god forbid something should happen to cause interest rates go up a littlement we have seen nothing yet. interest rates eventually will go up. >> doug: in the negotiations we are ignoring the long-term implications of this. >> people are aware of it. >> part of is it the future generations. the damage that it could do if the interest rate goes up in short-term to the economic interest. the market did not retake alarm we're going over the fiscal cliff. in days to come and the prospects for after the cliff is that the market would say this is alarming that washington can't get the act together. we have to deal with the
to avoid the fiscal cliff. he'll also have to put together something that will get republican support in the house. this is a last-ditch effort and will be obviously very difficult if it succeeds at all. at this point, the white house still wants that threshold for income tax rates to be at 250,000. it's unclear, exactly what the senate proposal is going to look like. as we understand from sources, al inna, it could be a couple of days, even though this are reconvening tomorrow, it could be a couple of days before they outline the proposal. we're told by sources they are waiting to get republican support in the senate but to build pressure in the house. if they move the deadline close -- move the timeline from unveiling a proposal as close to the new year as possible it increases pressure on the house and, of course, if the house doesn't take up the bill, you can see that we're already sort of setting the scene for the blame game. democrats would point the finger at republicans for going over the fiscal cliff. >> that's been going on for a while as you well know, brianna, and as the p
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in the fight over the fiscal cliff as the number two republican in the senate moments ago said there could potentially be a bill ready for the floor, but after lawmakers turned down several different plans to avoid potential tax hikes for every american what do we know about this possible bill? not much, and may be more importantly if it passes, what does it mean for your wallet on january 1st, that is if we fall off the cliff. matt mccall is president of penn financial group llc. the irs is today notifying employers on how much they will have to withhold from their employees' checks. let's go through each and every one of these tax increases if there is no deal, and we dive off the cliff. let's begin with the first one. marginal income tax rates ric rice for nearly everybody in america. >> over 90% of americans will be hit with higher taxes, and everybody talks about the wealthy getting hit the hardest. what i find fascinating is two-thirds of americans that make less than $20,000 a year will get hit with higher tax rates which will equal a gain of close to $600 more per year in taxes. if
for democrats to offer a new type of fiscal cliff proposal. democrats are saying to republicans in the house, they should just pass that bill that passed the senate earlier this year, one that extends tax rates for families earning less than $250,000 a year. so very much bit of a stalemate going on here in washington as we move ever closer to the deadline. back to you. ashley: my first reaction is, so what's new? >> not much. ashley: at least it is something. but the 31st is well, the very next day. >> right. ashley: if you look past the headlines about the gridlock in washington what do the fundamentals of the economy really look like? are they not that bad? and will 2013 be the year for you to make money? certainly hope so. mark luschini, janney montgomery scott analyst joining me in an fb. in exclusive. mark, thank you for being here. you are unabashedly bullish, which i love? >> i love the underlying economic fundamentals despite what is played out on the television. ashley: to that point. we're not in a fiscal cliff wrooefr in a fiscal slope. is it being overblown? >> the terminal facto
as part of the overall deal here on the fiscal cliff. republicans have been resisting that by announcing the debt ceiling limit will be held on monday, ratchets up the pressure to include the debt ceiling piece in the final package, whatever that may be, but still not clear, carl, there is going to be a final package of any kind. one quick note, we saw the realism. pact in the real world of the debt situation. treasury announcing yesterday it has suspended the sale of state and local government securities, government series securities. so already, they are doing some maneuvering here financially to try to avoid that debtly limit. the treasury secretary says he doesn't know how much wiggle room they are going to have, given that all the fiscal cliff uncertainty is out there. >> eamon, on this idea that the house members get called back with 48 hours' notice. traders are looking for that headline if it happens almost that bleed out there or procedural moment where that is announced, so to speak? >> a good question. i have been in touch with republican leadership about that today. what they
. >> president owe pa ma returns to washington today with five days to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> all eyes will be on the senate after house republicans said it's up to senate leadership to reach a deal. >>> starbucks is urging action asking baristas in his washington, d.c., cafes to write the word "come together" on the cups. >> a new york newspaper facing backlash after it published the names and addresses of local gun owners. >>> a busy shanghai shopping center a shark tank exploded. >>> the windy city of chicago will sport america's most expensive parking meters. >> what do you think about that? >> too much. >> all that -- >> smith catches, shoots puts it up, puts it in at the buzzer! j.r. smith with another game winner! >>> what is your favorite app? >> scrabble. >> sometimes i want to yank that out of your hands. >> and all that matters. >> an endangered thin backed whale watched up on the breezy point section of queens. >> on "cbs this morning." >> i know he's smiling but that medal hanging around his neck there's a 40% chance he'll hang himself with it. captionin
and congressional leaders will meet later today trying to hammer out a deal on the fiscal cliff. we'll ask republican senator bob corker if a deal is likely and tell you how no deal could significantly impact everything from the price of milk to the price of gas. >>> we also look back at the life and legacy of general norman schwarzkopf. and a double agent tells us how facebook was used to infiltrate al qaeda. >>> but we begin this morning with today's "eye opener," your world in 90 seconds. >>> the house and republican have left town. the negotiations between the president and speaker have fallen apart. you can't legislate with yourself. >>> republicans have bent over backward. we wanted an agreement, but we had no takers. >> washington scrambles to avert the fiscal cliff. >>> president obama has asked the congressional leaders to meet at the white house today. >> if they cannot reach a deal, the economists warn that could trigger another recession. >> are they going to avoid a fiscal cliff, eric? [ laughter ] as stormin' norman has died. he commanded the u.s.-led international coalition
republicans say the president wants to go over the fiscal cliff. >>> and imagine someone breaking into your home and ransacking your christmas tree, stealing your electronics. meet the family who encountered a real life grinch and caught the thief on camera. it's an unbelievable story, and the family will join us live in this hour. good morning, everybody. on a christmas eve, welcome to "starting point." i'm alina cho in new york. da dana, good morning. >> good morning. alina. i'm dana bash in washington. it's christmas eve. "starting point" begins right now. >>> and our starting point, an american contractor in kabul shot and killed earlier this morning by a woman wearing an afghan police uniform. it happened inside kabul's police headquarters, and it's the latest in a string of suspected green on blue attacks. pentagon correspondent barbara starr is working her sources, and she joins us from washington. barbara, we have seen a lot of these attacks. correct me if i'm wrong, this is the first time it's happened with a woman. >> reporter: i think that is absolutely correct, dana. u.s. offici
to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama is pressing a basic proposal previously rejected by republicans. >> gregg: and in moscow, at least four people are dead, four more seriously injured after a passenger plane crashed while landing at one of russia's busiest airports. >> arthel: the u.n. envoy for syria somebodying a dire warning today in a meeting with russia's foreign minister saying the country's civil war could plunge the entire region into chaos unless something is done to solve the refugee crisis. >>> fox extreme weather alert. the northeast[5uzi facing yet ar powerful snow storm in less than a week. look at those picturing, adding up to a heap of trouble for holiday travelers on the roads and at the airports. the storm has already hit the ohio valley and now it is cranking up wind and snow as it moves to the northeast. meg baker of wtxf is live in north town, pen opinion -- pen opinion. it looks dark behind you. i'm trying to see how bad it is. >> it's been a winter wonderland for parts of greater philadelphia area. we're in north town where we see about three inches of snow t
over the fiscal cliff, they think it's for better democratic leverage. >> that's nonsense. the president made extraordinary concessions to the republicans to try to go over -- to try to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. he promoezed that we don't tax -- no tax increase until $400,000, instead of $250,000. he proposed -- he said he would be willing to go with the republican demands for entitlement cuts cutting colas on social security which i think is obnoxious and will not vote for under any circumstances. he made a lot of concessions, too many. the republicans showed, though, when they voted against cutting taxes for 99.8% of americans, because they wouldn't allow taxes to go up for people above $1 million, they showed that it's very difficult to do business this w them. >> you said the president made too many concessions. >> i think so. >> were you more a fan of the $250,000 and less than that or -- >> i'm more of a fan of the $250,000 but mainly, mainly i would not vote for a nickel in -- under any circumstances for a nickel in cuts to social security benefits. >> so w
to the firestorm in the nation's capital and the last-ditch effort to avoid falling off the fiscal cliff. the deadline is looming new year's day. here's brian mooar with the big story this morning. >> as senate leaders were behind closed doors, president obama and republicans issued dueling messages on the web. >> we can't afford a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. the economy is growing. but keeping it that way means that folks you sent to washington have to do their jobs. >> if the nation goes over the fiscal cliff next tuesday, each side blames the other. >> we can avoid going over the fiscal cliff if the president and democrat controlled senate step forward this week and work with republicans to solve this problem and solve it now. >> all over the country now, uncertainty is in the air. >> it's not a matter of am i going to pay my light bill or not but will it deplete my savings. problem and solve it now. >> all over the country now, uncertainty is in the air. >> it's not a matter of am i going to pay my light bill or not but will it deplete my savings. >> even if the
the republicans have the majority and as we've been seeing with the fiscal cliff there is not a lot of wiggle room. we're going to have to see compromise. the last immigration reformabout in 1986 took both republicans and democrats working together. it can't be just a democratic lift. >> thank you victoria defrancesco soto. this is something we'll be watching over the next two to four years. >> and coming up, the controversy over keeping fast food chains open on christmas. i, it has to work. ♪ make just one someone happy and when it's a toys for tots child, well, what could be more important? so this year, every hasbro toy donated to toys for tots will be powered by duracell. happy holidays. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. >>> a happy meal for a happy holiday? well, mcdonnell's holds so. it's pushing its franchises to stay open despite a long tradition of giving its employees a break for the holiday. now some workers and customers are pushing back on that possibility. joining us now, jonathan weston of fast food forward, a group working to u.n.ize fast-food workers. jonathan, thanks
the president, the republicans, the democrats, anybody to aavoid the fiscal cliff? >> reporter: well, this is what may be alarming to learn, suzanne. obviously, the white house is always in concert with senate democrats. there's always an open line of communication there, but there are really no substantive discussions going on with the white house and senate democrats with republicans both in the house and the senate. that may seem troubling at this point, because obviously eyes are turning towards the senate as it is going to reconvene on thursd thursday. if this fiscal cliff is to be averted, it has to get through both the senate and house with some republican support. so you're hearing pessimism now on both sides. take a listen to a democratic and a republican senator and how they see the prospects of maybe going over the fiscal cliff. >> i feel that it's more likely that we will go over the cliff than not. if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequence consequenceal act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time, maybe ever in american history. >> whe
: it depends on how we get there. if we have a fiscal cliff deal, the kind the republicans were pushing through last week, it was really no government spending cuts for two years. additional revenue that would be raised was not very much. that would not cause a recession. however, if we got a deal where the president got $100 billion in additional taxes from upper income people and he got $100 billion in the immediate spending cuts as the republicans would want to match it, subtracting $2 billion it is a little over 1% of gdp. that would push us into a mild recession. unemployment was start to creep up. if we got the bigger than that, $300 billion in spending cuts and tax increases, that we would have a severe recession of the kind from which the economy could not easily recover. host: first call is lydia. caller: i had a question for the doctor morici. over the last four years, everything the president has tried to propose to get the country back to work, jobs he has proposed, the infrastructure and jobs programs, the republicans have a filibuster. they took an oath before he was sworn in to d
will be scrambling to find budget reductions in we can understand. >> we are upon the fiscal cliff. will we need to focus on is how we find that common ground. ira by -- i believe republicans and democrats alike want to put us on the course to fiscal discipline. >> we are running at a time. americans are threatened with a tax hike in just few hours. i hope we can keep in mind that our single most important goal is to protect middle-class families. >> democrats and republicans in congress have to get this done but they are not there yet. they are closed but not there yet. one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there is even one second left, they will lose -- they will use that last second. >> the gap between the two sides is narrowing. time is running short. if a deal cannot be found, the eventual impact on americans will be severe. geeo the year, the ara family would pay an extra $2,000 in tax. there would be sharp cuts in spending across government operations. defense would be hit hard. with so much money coming out of the economy, america would face higher unemploym
the country to go off the fiscal cliff to gain political points are lawmakers playing chicken with your taxes? >>> and a winter storm may be headed your way. who may be getting a white christmas and what it means for your holiday travels. we'll have all of that, coming up. good morning, everybody. welcome to early start. i'm alina cho in new york. >> and i'm dana bash in washington. john and zoraida are off. >> a developing story in afghanistan. an adviser to the afghan police has been shot and killed by a woman wearing an afghan police uniform. the latest in the series of green on blue insider attacks and our pentagon correspondent barbara starr joins us live with details on that. good morning. how unusual is this? >> well, alana, sadly this is a story we've report sod often during the year, haven't we? the details on this attack are different in one respect. as far as we know this is a case where a woman, an afghan woman in a police uniform conducted this shooting and killing. a contractor in cab uhl police headquarters. the nato alliance has already announced the incident but not said the
there is no fiscal cliff. let me say second act conservatives and republicans -- about conservatives and republicans who are demoralized, get over it. we had a bad election. we did a number of stupid things. we faced an opponent who worked harder than we did, did some clever things. ronald reagan, one of his most important single statements is february 1975 in washington at the conservative political action committee meetingment now, i was part of this. i ran in '74. i've had no sense of timing. so i picked watergate to run in. [laughter] i'm in georgia. i'm a yankee-born army brat with a strange accent, a weird name running as a republican during watergate. this was beyond not clever. [laughter] this was like, you know, don't give him money, pay for the therapy. [laughter] in december of 1974 republican party id was at 17%, and there was serious talk about is the party going to disappear and be replaced. now, it was nonsenses, but it was serious talk , and i was part of the group doing serious, in-depth analysis of what went wrong and why did it go wrong. they actually had a series of commercials c
the road. let's go to louann on the republican line. caller: to me, the fiscal cliff is a small smokescreen. the fiscal cliff that is coming is obamacare. nobody is addressing obamacare. i have to find out friday will be taxed 2.3% on any device used on us in any of the medical fields. my husband's doctor wrote out a prescription for a blood drop for january. he said i do not know how much this will cost you out of pocket because of obamacare. my husband is over 70. he said he did not know how much longer he would be able to help him because of obamacare. this is a smokescreen. when people find out we will be taxed on medical devices, even our vet bills will be going up, this thing is a joke. the liberals will be hit just as hard as republicans. the tea party warned you this would happen. host: let's give the guys a chance to comment on the health care law and its place in this debate. guest: is not part of the fiscal cliff. there is a tax increase going into effect because of the health reform act. it is not considered part of the fiscal cliff. in terms of immediate damage to the economy,
and there's still no sign leaders are closer to agreeing on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. here's brian mooar. >> as senate leaders were behind closed doors, president obama and republicans issued dueling messages on the web. >> we can't afford a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. the economy is growing. >> if the nation goes over the fiscal cliff next tuesday, each side blames the other. >> we can avoid going over the fiscal cliff if the president and democrat controlled senate step forward this week and work with republicans to solve this problem and solve it now. >> all over the country now, uncertainty is in the area. >> it's not a matter of am i going to pay my light bill or not but will it deplete my savings. >> even if the impact isn't real, the perceived impact could cause us to drop off in sales. >> getting a deal is up to the senate's top democrat and top republican. >> we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader myself and the white house, in hopes we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation. >> whatever we come up with will be imperf
reductions in we can understand. >> we are upon the fiscal cliff. will we need to focus on is how we find that common ground. ira by -- i believe republicans and democrats alike want to put us on the course to fiscal discipline. >> we are running at a time. americans are threatened with a tax hike in just few hours. i hope we can keep in mind that our single most important goal is to protect middle-class families. >> democrats and republicans in congress have to get this done but they are not there yet. they are closed but not there yet. one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there is even one second left, they will lose -- they will use that last second. >> the gap between the two sides is narrowing. time is running short. if a deal cannot be found, the eventual impact on americans will be severe. over the year, the average family would pay an extra $2,000 in tax. there would be sharp cuts in spending across government operations. defense would be hit hard. with so much money coming out of the economy, america would face higher unemployment and probably effect
with the fiscal cliff looming large. >> the fiscal cliff gets closer. congress now has six days left to make a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are. >> be republican and be conservative and pass a bill that cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle and the girls behind as he gets back to work to try to prevent tax increases and spending cuts due to begin next week. there's just one problem. it appears there would be no house republicans to help hammer out a deal.
will happen with the fiscal cliff and whether we'll go over it. it is unclear. >> brianna, can we expect any other lawmakers to like jump in and try to -- you mentioned harry reid. what about mitch mcconnell or someone, can we expect anybody else to do something besides the house speaker and the president? >> reporter: well, at this point i think the ball is really out of the court of president obama and house speaker john boehner. obviously something would have to get through the house, but we're definitely focusing on the senate. i will tell you talking to sources that it doesn't even appear that senate majority leader reid and senate minority leader mcconnell are talking. the discussions aren't under way yet. you talk to sources on the hill and you get the sense that reid is waiting for mcconnell to chime in and mcconnell is waiting for reid to chime in. so this is a bit of a standoff right now and we are waiting to see who is going to blink. that's really the question, who is going to blink first and the fact is we just don't know. >> brianna keilar, thank you very much. >>> first, now t
from wyatt, the fiscal cliff also includes 1.2 trillion in mandatory spending cuts. congressional democrats and republicans agreed to these drastic cuts last year, to force both parties to the table on deficit reduction. if they can agree by monday at midnight, the following cut take effects. over the next nine years, the u.s. defense budget would be reduced by $455 billion. domestic programs would be slashed by 464 billion. 1,000 government programs face potential cuts, including three that directly impact air travel. john bentley has the story. >> reporter: long waits at airport security are nothing new. but if the u.s. government goes over the fiscal cliff, they could get even longer. according to one congressional analysis, the transportation security administration would lose more than $640 million in funding, roughly 7% of out budget. t.s.a. with would also lose over 7,000 security officers. safety would not be compromised. the passenger misery would increase. >> it could be a severe impact on the traveling public. instead of maybe one hour, you may be there two or three hou
that the public would blame republicans more -- patti ann: right. >> -- if this whole fiscal cliff disaster happens. patti ann: now how was it spun this way? there's a lot more being negotiated than just those tax rates for wealthy people. what about the fact that we have the $16 trillion debt, and these plans hardly do anything to address it? why is that not the focus? >> yeah, they do almost nothing to address it. even if the president got what he wanted in taxes which is raising taxes on americans who make above $250,000 a year, i think it would be about $850 billion over the next ten years, it wouldn't even be one year's deficit. so there, i mean, there are a lot of other things involved. republicans have demanded real spending cuts, mostly spending cuts in the entitlement programs. and what we've seen in the past few weeks is as that has been discussed among democrats, there's been a hardening of opinion that they really do not want to make any cuts or any trims really in any of the big entitlement programs, medicare, medicaid and social security. patti ann: all right. well, byron york
was not a fiscal one, it was political, to follow the victory in november by creating a civil war among republicans over the tax issue, which is exactly what happened. he said the 1 requirement i have for any deal is hiking tax rates. the reason that boehner was not able to do plan b was because it involved breaching the principle, which he did openly and said he was ready to do it. there were conservatives who would not do it. that is not a figure of the party that will be extremely hard to reconcile. if you can not, how you get a deal done before january 1? >> that is essentially the problem the president faced with boehner two years ago. last year. can he deliver? how can you negotiate with someone who cannot deliver on his side? >> you go to people for support, at least three of whom have lost their committee assignments. how can you expect them to come over to your way of thinking? >> they were crowing when john boehner went down, taking some delight, but that was pre- cleared by the leadership. the leadership was with him. this is not a question of -- quite bluntly, leaving and losing their v
on to cal on the republicans line in tennessee. what do you think of the fiscal cliff and where the negotiations are so far? >> i think they ought to go over the fiscal cliff. we have people like that that are on the government bill too long. they are sucking the tit of the federal government. i think everyone should pay their fair share. we have almost a $17 billion national debt. not only, the rich but everyone should pay their fair share. we also need some spending cuts too. $3 for every $1. if you don't do this we're going top find ourselfs in a situation -- you want to talk about unemployment, we're not going to be in a recession we're going to be in a depression. if we don't do this now, what are we going to do when the debt is at $23 trillion. what are we going to do then? >> we're going to bring you president obama's remark again shortly. we're taking a if you more calls. the numbers are on your screen and let us know what you think of the fiscal cliff negotiations so far. brian is on the independent line. go ahead. >> yes, ma'am. we don't have a revenue problem. it's a
support in the senate and the house to avoid the fiscal cliff. we are one week away from it, as you mentioned, and republicans are not even part of the discussions, both in the senate and in the house, and at this point they are certainly maybe having a working christmas. senate democrats and republicans, but i think it's interesting just to kind of recap what's going on here. before president obama and house speaker john boehner were working on a much bigger package obviously, not just to avoid the fiscal cliff but to try and tackle the long-term fiscal health of the country, trying to overall it was expected to raise some taxes, try to deal with entitlement reform and tax reform, those other big things like entitlement reform and tax reform get kicked into the new year, dana, so it's the gift that keeps on giving on this cli clifftmas. >> taking this pretty far. one of the key questions is whether or not senate democratic leader harry reid will be able to get enough republicans in the senate to vote on anything that will keep taxes low and maybe cut some spending. is the white hou
the president actually wants to go off the fiscal cliff for political gain. take a listen. when i listen to the president i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. additional tax revenue for new programs. he gets to cut the military which democrats have been calling for for years. and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> now, republicans are also skeptical of the short-term deal the president is talking about because it would leave spending cuts until next year. not deal with them now. republicans don't like the idea that some taxes would go up. meanwhile, the spends cuts wouldn't come until later. although democrats on the hill say the real reason republicans have not sealed the deal with the president yet is they just won't admit that he won the election. take a listen to senator chuck schumer. >> on taxes i know it's hard for the republicans but the president ran on that platform 250 no taxes below but taxes above. he won 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit polls including some republicans. >> independent senator joe lieberman says
the fiscal cliff, and i do not think it is responsible whether you are republican or democrat. i think both parties should unite and work for all americans. it is not obama's fault he was handed a mass. he has done a great job with that. honestly, i was a republican at the time when i voted for him and have since changed to become a democrat. is not about the individual parties. it is about responsibility. if i am not responsible with my money, i pay. i have been recently disabled, and i have spent endless hours and days and weeks and months to try to get disability. and i am unable to get it. i am concerned about our veterans coming home, not having a job, concerned about children and grandchildren having no education so that they have to work so hard for what is already outrageous tuition. i could go on and on a. everyone is glued to their tv, wondering what is going to happen. it is time that we act like responsible adults and do the job. host: keeping an eye on wall street as well. the markets are all up. the dow is up at this hour. many expect a market reaction depending on what happen
to along with the president say good-bye to one of their own. with the fiscal cliff deadline looming, lawmakers and president obama attended a memorial service in honolulu on sunday for the late senator daniel inoyue. >> he was really a legislative hero who would never hesitated to collaborate with a republican colleague for the good of the country. >> reporter: there was little sign of collaboration on the morning talk shows. >> my one bit of advice to speaker boehner is this. you cannot pass a bill with just republicans. >> the president has been a pathetic fiscal leader. >> both sides blaming each other for the impact. >> i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory the on the bottom of the cliff. >> on taxes it's hard for the republicans, but the president ran on that platform, 250, no tax increases for people below but taxes for people above. he won. >> reporter: those comments cap aa week in which house speaker john boehner and president obama seemed close it to getting a deal, which included tax reform and defi
much a possibility, don, that this doesn't work out, that we go over the fiscal cliff, and that was reflected today on the sunday shows from both democrats and republicans, take a listen. >> passing plan b the other night would not have changed the outcome, we're going to go over the cliff before, we're going to go over the cliff now. you cannot negotiate with someone that doesn't want to negotiate. >> in the aftermath of the house republicans rejecting speaker boehn boehner's plan b, i feel it's more likely we will go over the cliff than not, and that -- if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequence shall act of congressional irresponsibleability in a long time. maybe ever in american history. >> officially, the president is expected to be here -- or is supposedly here in hawaii through the new year, i think the expectation at this point is that with congress returning, president obama is likely to go back to washington to oversee things as they move. or as the fiscal cliff comes nearer and the u.s. goes over it. >> can we expect any other lawma
republicans. and this is problematic obviously because in order to avoid the fiscal cliff, you would need to find some sort of deal that would make it through the senate and the house and that would need democratic and republican support. now, all eyes on the senate because they will reconvene on the 27th, thursday. and senate majority leader harry reid, it is up to him, really, to cobble together something that can get some of that support. right now the white house is still supporting a threshold of $250,000 back to their initial starting point for tax rates going up for those making more than that. but you can imagine, hala, that's going to be very hard for some republicans, maybe even some democrats to sign on to. >> right. and for just about a week ago, it was common to hear a deal will be hammered out. over the last several days we're hearing more and more that potentially this is a reality for americans in eight days' time. your sources in the administration, is there a real concern among some of the people you're speaking with that indeed this fiscal cliff will become a reality? >
,000. that's overnight. the bush tax cuts sunset if we don't do anything to variety the fiscal cliff. this is something that the president and republicans agree on. they agree 98% of the americans shouldn't have taxes raised, but that 2% disagreement brings us to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> the ceo of starbucks says, hey, you know what? let's write on our coffee cups "come together." do you think anybody will pay attention to that in washdz? >> you know what? anything and everything helps. just merely spreading the message america is watching and waiting for congress to act to find a way to reason together, that's an important act, and everyone doing their part can do, i say good on him. we need to send this message to washington and make sure it isn't settled. we'll go deeper into this tonight at 7:00 as well. this is urnlggent. the clock is ticking, suzanne. >>> many american families have adopted children from russia, but that might actually be ending thanks tie controversial bill passed in russia parliament. because your daughty wants that pink castle thing. and you really d
to the fiscal cliff. there are some signs of hope this morning. and it oob thanks to republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. peter doocy live in washington with the very latest. peter, i guess they reconvene 1:00 tomorrow which leads them oh tons of time to avert that fiscal cliff you are hearing from administration officials down here that republican the senatech mcconnell the is trying really hard to figure out a way to avoid the fiscal cliff public. >> we had a good meeting at the white house. we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the expwrort leader can make to his conference. >> at yesterday's white house meeting, president obama did not offer negotiators anything new. he just tried to sell them on the same plan he outlined last friday, being called plan c. since the president's plan a and speaker boehner's plan b both failed to gain traction. plan c would extend middle class tax rates and we're told the senate wants
and vote on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. in his first sunday talk show appearance in three years, president obama today called for congress to at least extend middle class tax cuts and unemployment benefits if no fiscal deal is reached. tax hike increase take effect january 1st. >>> the situation in the war-torn country is getting worse by the day. this weekend is proving him right. opposition activists say at least 397 people were killed across syria yesterday alone. if true, the deadliest day yet in almost two years in the civil war. the opizatiposition says more t 200 killed following a battle. >>> new england is getting a heavy dose of snow and freezing temperatures. boston is expected to get up to eight inches and the city's mayor has declared a snow emergency. neighboring rhode island is also getting pounded over a foot of snow has already fallen in some parts of that state. >>> some good news this morning about former president george h.w. bush. we're told he is improving and has been moved out of the intensive care unit of the houston hospital where he was being treated f
together to make something happen. host: you think the fiscal cliff debate is a good sign for the country? caller: absolutely, it is a good sign for the country. you know, america does not need money. america is money. america needs jobs. what kind of jobs? american jobs. what is on american jobs? to do the best and to bring the best things. that is the mayor, -- the america that i see. i seek some unity. i travel around the world. i see some the young americans everywhere. they become the best. host: from manitoba, canada, thank you so much for calling in. a few other stories we want to run through for you -- we will continue this discussion into the next segment. here is the story on federal workers getting a pay raise -- another story at what point you to, this from "the new york times" -- one other story i wanted to point out this morning, this from the new york daily news -- that is from the daily news this morning. i want to get one more call from walker from arizona, the democratic line. walter, what is your message to congress? caller: good morning. thank you for the opportunity t
story of 2012. pat? >> the election of 2012 primary and general election and the fiscal cliff. >> eleanor? >> political gaffes. i like to fire people. you didn't build that, corporations are people too my friend. and -- the -- what is it? the private sector is doing just fine. >> susan? >> the republican primary. too many debates, too much coverage. just oversaturation. >> clarence? >> overcoverage -- overreported story of the of sessionist movement after the election. >> the most overreported story of 2012. facebook. anything to do with facebook. from zuckerberg's will to the ipo to the ipo's dismal results to facebook's privacy policies you name it. facebook is so overreported. okay biggest government waste pat? >> obama gives stimulus billions of dollars to fat cat friends with green energy companies like solyndra. >> eleanor? >> war in afghanistan. >> overreported. >> no, no, biggest government waste. >> biggest government waste. my material. clarence? susan? >> government junkets, the government service administration spent $800,000 for a conference in las vegas. >> clare
from the fiscal cliff. talks to try to prevent automatic tax hikes and spending cuts won't resume until thursday. andrew spencer has the very latest. >> reporter: some republican lawmakers says president obama wants the country to fall off the fiscal cliff. >> we were gonna go over the cliff before. we are gonna now because that's what the president wants. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner failed to get enough vote for his plan b on thursday. that would have raised taxes on people making more than a million dollars a year. on friday, they left town with no deal. >> i've asked leaders of congress to work toward a package that prevent as tax hike on middle-class americans, protects unemployment insurance for 2 million americans and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. >> raising taxes could still be red ink as far as i can see and it would hurt jobs. >> reporter: some long-time lawmakers are dismayed by the perpetual gridlock. >> i feel it's more likely we'll go over the cliff than not and if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal
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